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we'll see you again next fox news sunday. fox news sunday is a presentation of boston for the ufc fight night. ston for the >> tonight on huckabee, another delay in the affordable care act. we delay things and why not delay it permanently and come up with a role solution. >> unaffordable and unpopular, but is obama care unstoppable. >> what you are not reading about is the government actually abusing these programs. and listening in on people's phone calls and inappropriately reading e-mails. >> the new report said that the nsa broke the privacy rules and can anything be done to stop the abuse of pour in washington? plus political correctness gone
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made. transgender studentsous any bathroom they want. but what about the privacy of their peers? >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. (applause) >> thank you, audience, thank you very much. and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. well, it looks as though the voters of new york have come to their senses on the possible election of anthony weener to be mayor. he lanquishing far back in the poes and set the record for highest unfavorable rating of any candidate polled in new york. a stuning 80 percent unfavorable. (applause) and only 11 percent so him favorably and they must be
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pornographiers or his immediate family or late night comedians or people who work for cell phone providers and just need his business. (applause) add to that embarrassing spectacle the case of former governor spitser. the merry governor spitser is a big spender on call dpirls, so it is hard to see why new yorkers would trust him with their money. despite the entertainment value of these and other politicians finding it impossible to leave the spotlight no matter how you mulliateingly it may be for the family and friends they have left. what happen to the simple virtue of shame? have we lost the red- faced and tear shedding sense of shame? when was the last time you heard
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a politician associated with humility and contriteness and brokenness or modesty? there seems to be a sense of blurring the lines between shame and fame. in fact, it is as if we have equated and elevated both characterization as if they are character qualities. in a culture that worships celebrity more than substance, we ought not be surprised those leaders of the political institutions are playing with the same rules of entertainment industry and sports. embarrassing and immoral behavior doesn't stop the public service. but validates one's humanity. and sayingim sorry wipes the slate clean with 100 percent name id. ego and raw ambition replaced the notion of serve hod.
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it goes to the brazen and self fuelled meglo maniacs. >> george washington had to be begged to be president and absolutely refuseed to make it a lifetime career. washington would not make the first cut of a modern-day primary that has one to acquire elija h syndrome. we don't so the jesus model. let this cup pass from me and not my will but yours be done. that's what political figures are, just that. as in action figures or artificial miniatures of the real thing. shame in the capacity to display the shame that we have is not a bad thing. it is it like humility. and it is a good thing and reveals that we know the difference of we right and wrong and utterly disgusted with ourselves when we fail. where there is no shame, all
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that is left is fame and that is a sorry substouts for character. this week we found out obama care provision and put the cap on annual out of pocket cost of co-pays and deductibles. it is just the latest in obama care delays and includes the man date on employers to provide health cares for workers who work more than 30 hours a week. irs employees asked to be exempted and members of congress and their staff have begun to get a break from the impact. but no from you. but even congressional workers who don't want obama care, who does? joining me is austin goldsby who was an economic advisor to president obama when obama care was passed. austin, thank you.
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>> it is an honor. >> thank you, ser. >> thank you for having me. >> we have seen so many delays and people who don't want obama care. interestingly it is the most invested irs workers who are going to administer it. and members of congress and their staff who wrote it and unions who pushed for it; are you still one of those folks who say i love the stuff? >> i think the bill is going to do a lot of good thinlyings and bring 30 or 40 million people to have insurance so they don't have to fear going bankrupt. i would disagree with you slightly, governor on the so- called exemption for congress. what happened is in the bill, large employers currently pay about three- quarters of the health care costs for employees. you may health insurance and your:e on employers play throw-
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quarters. large employers don't participate in the exchange and no way for them to pay the way of the costs and so when they move congressional workers in the exchanges, there was no provision for how congress would keep paying its share of the health care costs. they are not q. x.ed from the requirement of health insurance. all that happen with the exemption, it didn't exempt them from the law. but congress can pay that a normal employer paid. everybody is participating for it. >> austin, doesn't that prove that this bill was not thoroughly read or researched. numbers was congress and their staffs responsible for putting in 2300 pages they didn't know how it would impablth them and
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the rest of the country. that is a validation of the criticism that came to obama care. >> i do understand that point. the provision was stuck in at the last-minute by republicans, if you recall. >> but austin, it was stuck in there because if the rest of america was going to live under obama care, surely the sauce is good for the gappeder and that was the whole point. >> yes, and i do understand that logic and i personally don't like circumstances where congress literally exempts itself from laws that they apply to the rest of the country. you may have seen the congressional power plant violates all sorts of clean air act rowels that a plea to others. that drives monuts. in this case that is not exactly what happened here. theya added the good for the
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dpos but did so totally different. >> which is my point, austin. they bungled it. they rushed it through. and that's why you are seeing the president come out and delay certain pieces of it. some suggested maybe before the cake is brought out of the oven check the recipe and postpone babying the whole thing. can you name me any democrat who is running on his or her support for obama care as the primary platform which they would like to be elected. they are not running to it, they are running from it. >> it is a fair point. i am the policy guy. i am not watching the races. i know there are many places millions of people who have been sick or have a family member who are sick denied insurance
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coverage or seen their insurer drop them when they change employers and those people are going to be quite happy under the new system when insurers cannot do that and they will be able to get health care they can't get before. >> $2.3 trillion possibly, but you can't name one democrat who wants to make it the centerpiece. the political one. i can't name one who is not doing it either. >> i can name you. >> i don't follow the campaign advertise ams. >> austin, if you come up with any let me know. it is great to have you. >> i will mail it to you. >> thank you for coming. >> thank you for having me. >> this week california law man dates students k- 12 who believe they would rather identify with
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anything anything the biological gender can use whatever bath rom they are comfortable with. did anybody ask how the other students would feel. we'll talk about it when we return. >> i would like to hear from you. go to and the lead feedback section or sign up on the facebook page and follow me on twitter. can you find the
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>> on monday california governor jerry brown signed a law that allows transjeopardier students to use any bathroom, boys or girls that they feel more comfortable in and allows them to choose the by or girl's.
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supporters say it will reduce bullies against trandz jeopardiers in the school. car linis part of the public policy organization in california. they led a successful effort to stop mandatory hp d vaccinations and carolyn thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> the basis of the law and signed by the goff helping to stem the tide of bully. i am having a hard time. a biej boij boygoing in a girl's restroom less subjected to ridicule and bullying than not. so what is the basis of this? >> absolutely. what they want to do is blur the genders together. we currently have a law that does take care of those rare exceptions of those students who
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are struggling with gender identity. it is radical letting boys wake up and decide they are girls and access to the restroom and looker roms in all public schools. this is kindergarteners and high schoolers. >> one of the things of the law, it doesn't provide for the student to have a note from the doctor or psychologist or parent. if a boysaid i am feeling my girl side he gets to shower with the girls. i am thinking of the 14-year-old boys i went to school with and how many would have awakened with the ref laegz. nboys have always wanted to get in the girl's looker room and now they legal otherwised it in california. it is crazy.
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no process to show the jeopardier identity. like you said, they wake up one day and decide the identity and sports team and looker room and pe classes have access to that without any sort of back up that this is an issue they are taking seriously. >> i don't want to be insensitive to a child that may be confused and have issues going on. the but the blanket law in california is the most irerational approach to this than i have ever heard. and my question is what can you do about it? are you doing anything about it? >> we are, most people who ran for office and i don't know any that campaigned on boys and girls looker rooms and we filed a referundum. and let the people.
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california parents don't want this craziness and it creates an unsafe environment for all students. we went to privacy for all students opinion com, that's where they can get involved in the process. we have a short period of time to collect a large amount of signatures and we will need everyone to partner with us to get it done. >> i appreciate you being here and giving us a perspective firsthand from california. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you for having me, governor. >> well, the abuse of pour in washington is getting out of control. can anything be done to stop it before it is too late.
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>> we hear a lot of how the government is trampleoth constitution and overextending its powers with obama care and nsa snooping. they figured one day it would have an overbearing federal government. they put in a provision and this is the subject of mark's bock called the liberty amendments. >> they left us a legacy and the second amendment process in the constitution which essentially bypasses congress and the federal government and gives the states the power collectively in a convention and not a constitutional convention. the convention for proposing amendments to the rest of the state. the constitution is not up for grabs any way than congress recommends it to the constitution. >> the states have the power to bypass congress and propose
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amendments. michael ferris has an idea. convention of states. it is it a plan on how to go forward with the idea. michael joins me now, great to see you here. >> mark lavine is ignited a fire in the conservatives and libertarians and the idea of the convention of the states. what is it and how does it happen? >> when 34 states make an application to call a convention to propose amendments. congress has to name the city and time when the convention begins and congress cannot say no. the states have the power to reign in the federal government and stop washington d.c. from abusing itself and all of us through the abusive power. >> you have put together to take mark's idea that he's getting attention for and which is exciting people, but now take it to the point of here's how we
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track it and do it. talk about the plan itself. how do you make it work? >> we need throw thousand legislative directs where people are volunteering. there are 34 states that are necessary in order to call the convention. and we want to work in 40 states or 42 states and try to get it to happen right away. i spoke to the exchange council and legislative sponsors and now we have citizen volunteers. they stand up and say we want the states to reign in d.c. it is up to the people and legislators and they joan with the conventions of state and we hired staff and got the mechanisms in place and got the legal documents drafted for the state legislators and we need people to tell them and call a convention of the states. that's the process. >> it is the topics that the states would be asked to put
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before the convention of states? >> anything that watches the dc power. tax limit aegz and term limits on congress and mark lavenes proposed curtailing the power of the supreme court by giving the states a method of overroadwaying it. and all of those things, the abuse of the excutive power and abuse of regularulatory power. anything that washington d.c. does is up for grabs, theit rights of the people would not be ger main in the convention or the power of the states would be ger main. all we are doing is time to reign in d.c. just like the provision in article five. >> this is mark lavine talking about neal cavuto on how to deal with obama care in such a way.
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>> the american people don't know what the law is about. >> i tried to figure it out. you work on it every day. they change the law on the run that is utterly unconstitutional. >> and so a convention of the states would be able to address obama care and other things that people feel are out of control. >> the abuse of the general welfare clause are two biggest problems in d.c. obama care came through the general welfare clause and environmental protection against in the commence clauses. it would be simple to rain it in and say if the state's can regulate the feds can't. if the states spend money the feds can't. that is the centerpiece of what needs to know done. and obama care would be gone. >> is this rolistic and doable? great idea.
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but can it be done. >> if we have 300,000 people to help us, it would get done in year or two. >> thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you so much. >> michael, thank you, and coming up next, we are going to be talking about the chaos in egypt and how it acts the u.s. to get an idea of how bad things are, there is a shocking scene of graphic video. let me warn you, you will be able to see a man shot. an unarmed protestor and gunfire erupts in the day of rage uprising. the man stands with his hand up in the air and the gunfire sos him go down to the ground. more than 90 people were killed just on friday. over a thousand since the said
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not stop until ousted president morsi is restoreed to power. (applause) >> before the break, we showed you graphic images of an unarmed man shot down trying to stop a tank. this is how out of control the violence in egypt has become. >> eric was in egypt last month when morsi was ousted from power. he also talks to them in the military and political pears including the muslim brotherhood and a fellow in the washington institute. eric joins me now. thank you very much for being here. >> thank you, governor. >> i know you have had conversations with your sources in egypt and i would love to hear what you are getting from them as they are right there in the middle of all of this? >> what you have in egypt
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persistence civil strife. classes between the muslim broorth hood and security fores. many ejepgzs are not loving the homes because of curnow and violence and attacks on journalist some of my friends and a very deep anti- western sentiment in egypt. it is a hostile and frankly deadly environment. >> have we really taken a side when we demanded mubarak step down and suggesting that the current government invite the muslim brotherhood to sit down and make nice. it is not rolistic. ncalling for negotiations between the military and group just removed from power is unrealistic and a total waste of u.s. influence. we should have focused on trying to get the military to let the
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brotherhood protest, but that was the lost of. it the attack and it is brotherhoods protest will inflame and spread the violence and we can expect things to get much worse because of the military's decision here. >> eric, one of the decisions that the brotherhood was thrown out of power along with morsi was brutal handling of secullarist and women and christians in egypt. we are not hearing a lot about that, how come? >> i don't know why. you raise an important point. 50 churches were attacked in the past few days. they are not protected by the police and state and that raises question marks. you are correct that the uprising against morsi and the coup was in response to the muslim brother hood's attempt to consolidate power for itself. >> americans are wondering why
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does it matter it me. it is halfway around the world. there is a connection. >> egypt is got 90 million people and in the heart of the middle east and shares the border with israel. if any country becomes a power vacum, that provides fertile ground for terrorist. one thing worth remembering. egypt has a special place in the mefrn imagination. it is in the boibl and ph a roa h. and egypt resonates more than tunissia and burma when we talk about evens most mu barak. >> if you had advice to give to president obama dealing with this crisis, what counsel would you suggest to him? >> keep your powder dry. bottom line, the conflict between the brotherhood and military is life or death for both of them and that is very hard to influence their
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behavior. i emphasize influence them right now. we may have leverage once again. we don't want to play the card of the military aid right now. >> thank you for joining us and great to have you here and great insight on what is happening in egypt. >> i want to talk about the violence against christians. coming up.
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. >> the mainstream media is not really talking about the persecution of christians in the country. the muslim brother touched nearly two dozen coptic christian churches and set four to a christian youth center on friday. last week a 10-year-old was shot and killed in the street simply walking home from bible class. my next guest knows what it is like being a persecuted christian in a muslim country. they are both born to muslim families and arrested in 2009 and jailed in torans in the prison. they were sentenced to death.
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that is after witnessing the horrors of the prison. they were finally freed after continued international pressure and given asylum in the united states. it is told in the bock captive in iowa ran. joining me is the two women and so nice to have you both here. when i think of both of you being jailed and given death sentences and that you arine here is nothing short of a miracle. why would you put in prison and i will let you start. why were you put in prison with a death sentence? >> you know, we had a mission in iran, and we were in teheran and a few other cities. we were evafrjalizing iranian people every day. shopping or doing our chores, we
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are talking to them and handing them as a boibl. in iran there is a false and distorted version and they don't have access to the real bible. that is why we had the passion in our hearts to put the real bible in people's hands and we also had two house churches, one for prostitutes and the other one for young people in our own apartment. as you know, all of these activities are illegal in iran because no one is allowed to be with religion except for is lal. there was a report and the iranian government arrested us after finding out of our activities. >> you must have been totally frightened and didn't sound like you committed an act of violence. you gave out boibls and for that, you are begin a death sentence. >> the first day, we were so afraid because we are two human
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beings and it was a shock for us and they transferred us to the security police and threatened us with physical torture and we prayed for each other. the only thing that helpeditous survive was the presence of the holy spirit. >> would the death sentence removed if you recanted. >> can you write one sentence to convirt from christianity to is lal and we'll release you immediately. >> you didn't do that under the sheer knowledge of being put to death, you did not renounce your christian faith? why not? we both had many experience with jesus and we are in love with jesus and had seen miracles and met him and touched his love and
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because of our personal relationship with him, we couldn't deny jesus. because denying him was like denying ourselves and also, jesus in the boibl if you wish to follow me pick up your own cross and follow me. and as a follower of jesus, it was important to pass with victory and it was an honor for us to suffer for our faith. >> i think of all of the american christians at the least bit of trouble, someone said something unpleasant to them, they all but renounce jesus. you guys are willing to die and not going to renounce him and it is a powerful wake- up call to those of us who live with the illusion that everyone can worship like they want to in the world. the qu'ran is begin in the iran and they can't read it because
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they speak ph a rsee and it is an arabic boibl. >> we had a problem from child hod. it was in a rabic. and most people in iran don't know anything about islam and qura n and they are tired and thirsty to hear christianity and the message of jesus. it is different than the teachings of of the qura n. >> you believe that god intervened and so as you come to the u.s. for asylum you can tell people of the experience and opportunities that are there? >> yes, because of all of these international pressure in the iranian dpft they had to release us and many christians, they were supporting us by praying and sending letters to the
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prison which made a huge difference and their behavior changed. and we heard thattine the pope from vatican is not a letter and because of all of the activities and pressure, the iranian government had to release us. >> i hope people get the book and read. it what you have done to encourage me and challenge me when i think of the two of you being placed under a death sentence in an iranian prison and you would not renounce your faith. it brings a real conviction to all of us who have it awfully easy. thank you and god bless you. >> what famous person do you know that said this? capitalism takes more people out of poverty than aid. donald trump or bill gates? the answer may surprise you. my reaction to that and more
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on monday eric holder delivered a speech in san francisco regarding criminal justice reform. here's what he said about sentencing nonviolent sex offenders. >> we need to ensure that incarceration is used to punish, deter and to rehabilitate but not merely to warehouse and to forget. this is why i have today mandated a modification of the justice department's charging policy so that certain low level nonviolent drug offenders who have no ties to large scale organizations, gangs or cartels will no longer be charged with
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sentence that's have draconian mandatory sentences. >> you're going to hear something pretty rare. so buckle up. i actually agree with what eric holder is attempting to get done. i don't necessarily agree with the way he is doing it. i don't think it ought to be done apart from legislation. that i think the representatives of the people should have a role. but we have created a system where we have put a whole lot of people in prison who really didn't belong in prison. they belonged in drug rehab. and as a governor who administered a state prison system for ten and a half years, i recall what our prison director had told me many times. we lock up a lot of people that we're mad at, rather than the people we're really afraid of. we need our prisons to be a place where we keep people locked up that could actually hurt us. not just people who were stoop and i had got into drugs and did not know how to handle it or get off it. and the cost of putting people in prison, in every state it costs more to put a person in
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prison for one year than to send them to a four-year college or university, pay all their tuitions, expenses, room, books, and expense money. it is not sensible. so on that you'll be surprised. the attorney general and i actually agree on something. mark it down. well, this week you two singer bono talked about ending poverty. many celebrities talk about that but they don't really do anything about it. but bono offered a solution that might surprise you. >> commerce is real. that's what you're about here. it is real. aid is just a stop-gap. commerce, entrepreneurial capitalism takes more people out of poverty than aid, of course we know that. a rock star preaches capitalism. wow! sometimes i hear myself. i just can't believe it. >> well, actually, i can believe it. i have been with bono for the past seven years in a project called the one campaign. bono is one of those rare people in the celebrity world who
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doesn't just do something for the photo op. he actually rolls up his sleeves and he gets involved in trying to help alleviate poverty across the world. he's had a remarkable impact on hunger and on disease and yet, i appreciate the fact that he recognizes that ultimately, it is about bringing people up into an economy in which they can be self-sustaining that makes it all work. and for that, i give him my huck's hero of the week. bono, who is not just a rock star. he is just a star. on the first day of his all deaf digital youtube page, russell simmons released a parity sex tape starring harriet tubman. that's right. the woman who escaped slavery and rescued hundreds of slaves using safe houses known as the underground railroad. outrage at the tape caused simmons to remove the video from his youtube page. but our own fox news contributor
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says that the hip hop mogul ought to be punished. he tweeted this and i quote. russell simmons' net worth is north of $300 million. numerous advertisers sent money to his site at global grind. he needs to be paula deened. for that comment, thanks for telling it like it is. the fact is paula deen shouldn't have been paula deened for something she said 30 years ago that was not intended to be hurtful and for which she apologized. i'm glad russell simmons pulled it. but i'm also glad to see even a good democrat and liberal like him calls it straight and calls out people regardless of who they are and what their view may politically be. thank you for being a good, fair player in the game. there was a lot of outrage to that rodeo clown who wore an obama mask this week. >> president obama! >> hey, he's just running around
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like a clown and doesn't know he is one. i'm ready. he's going to get you! >> well, after that video went viral, many on the left were angered that someone would say such things with that our president calling it racist. the naacp even called for a full review of the rodeo clown by both the secret service and the justice department. oh, remember the movie, point break? the scene where they put on masks of presidents reagan, nixon, carter and johnson? they grab some guns and hold up a bank? no one was ever outraged over that. but let's take a look at something harry reid was quoted saying back in 2008 in the book game change. he, reid, was wowed by obama's oratorical gifts and he believes that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate. especially one such as obama here called a quote, light-skinned african-american
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with no negro dialect unless he wanted to have one, as he later put it privately. end quote. can you imagine if i had said something like that? it would not have been very pretty. i can assure you. racism is real in this country and it is ugly and it's wrong. bigotry has no place among those of us who believe that no one is better and no one is worse. who believe that all of us have been created equal by our creator and that we are endowed with inalienable rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. there is really no room for thinking ourselves better or worse. but yet, sometimes we get this idea that racism is something that becomes a political weapon rather than the reality. let's get real. i hope we all will reject racism. that we can take even bad humor for what it is. bad humor. by the way, i hope you'll join me next week for a special edition of huckaby. i have my own solutions to
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obamacare and i'm going to tell you what they are. if you've got questions about obamacare, you can tweet them to me @huckabee show. in the next week, good night and god bless.
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goodbye. >> we want the police to keep us safe. >> we have to do everything safe. >> we have to do everything we can to keep a safe. much? to make the area has been be >> tonight. john: "the police state"? america is not a police state the we're pretty free. for the